The Kremlinology of the FTC just gets weirder and weirder.
Last week, FTC Commissioner J. Thoma Roche said that neither he nor any of the commissioners at the FTC ever intended for Google to retain the data they stole from up to 190 million Safari users as part of their settlement, despite the fact that FTC lawyers went into court and told the judge that they did.
Which prompted the Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, David Vladeck, to send me this unsolicited comment:
With great respect to Commissioner Rosch, his statement that ‘neither I nor anyone else at the Commission was aware of the cookie issue’ is inaccurate. The issue was in fact considered during the course of negotiations between the FTC and Google, and the FTC ultimately decided, for the reasons given by the agency’s lawyer in open court and cited by Judge Illston in her opinion, not to insist on deletion of data that, at the time of settlement, was stale, valueless to Google, and had been de-identified to protect individual privacy. It also bears mention that, as Judge Illston noted, Consumer Watchdog did not make this argument in its lengthy primary submission to the court, but did so only in a reply submission to which the Commission had no opportunity to respond. The agency stands squarely behind the order entered in the Google Safari matter. The penalty approved by Judge Illston is the largest civil penalty ever awarded to the FTC for an order violation; the largest penalty ever awarded in a privacy case, and far exceeds any revenue Google made as a result of its order violation. That should send a clear message to companies that the FTC takes compliance with its orders seriously.
I responded that there seemed to be a conflict between what the FTC staff say the commissioners did, and what the commissioners say they did. Could any of the other commissioners verify Vladecks’s statement? They said they’d get back to me. And their response was simply to edit out the first line of Vladeck’s comment, where he contradicts Rosch.
So I decided to email FTC Commissioner Edith Ramirez directly. She is heralded as a “privacy expert” who would like to take over FTC Commissioner Jon Liebowitz’s position as Chairman when he retires. I sent her Roche’s and Vladeck’s comments, and asked her the following:
These statements of Commissioner Roach and Dr. Vladeck appear to contradict each other. I am writing to you in hope you could settle the discrepancy.
- Can you confirm or deny Commissioner Rosch’s statement that “neither I nor anyone else at the Commission was aware of the cookie issue until the plaintiffs brought it up before Judge Illston?”
- If Dr. Vladick’s statement does not contradict Commissioner Rosch, it means that the FTC staff conducted “negotiations with Google” and made the decision not to delete the data and they did not tell the press, the judge, the public or the commissioners about it. Do you believe that it was appropriate for the FTC staff to make this decision, independent of the commissioners?
- The FTC has always required that the data be expunged up to this point. Did the FTC ever ask Google to eliminate the data? What was Google’s response?
- In the declaration the FTC filed in this case, they swore that they “only included or excluded relief based on what it determined to be in the best interests of consumers.” (Bartley declaration at para. 8) How is excluding this relief and letting Google keep the data in the best interests of consumers? Even if the data gets old, wouldn’t deleting it still gives consumers more protection than not deleting it?
- Most importantly, Dr. Vladeck’s statement says “the agency stands squarely behind the order.” Commissioner Rosch apparently does not. As a privacy expert, do you still stand behind it?
Thank you so much for your help in this matter.
I expected at the very least that if Ramirez didn’t want to wade into the controversy, that she would still endorse the settlement, having voted for it. Instead, the Office of Public Affairs contacted me this morning to say that “Commissioner Ramirez asked that I decline to answer you on her behalf.”
So unlike Vladeck she refuses to contradict Rocsch, refuses to endorse the settlement, and won’t go on the record saying that she knew that Google would be allowed to keep the stolen data.
It appears that there is something of a communication problem between the FTC staff and the commissioners. I asked Rosch if he was even aware of representations made by FTC and Google lawyers in court that the issue had been deliberated by the commissioners. To which he replied “No. I was not aware of the representations the staff made.”
It looks like the FTC staff basically made the decision to give Google the use of the stolen data as part of the settlement — something the commissioners never intended — and now none of the commissioners are willing to step forward and take responsibility for it.
I sure hope somebody grills Joshua Wright about it during his upcoming December 4 confirmation hearing.
*The FTC Office of Public Affairs subsequently contacted me to say that Ramirez “supports the settlement.” But despite my repeated attempts to get a straight answer as to whether she intended for Google to retain the stolen data at the time she voted for the settlement, she refuses to do so. Likewise, she refuses to explicitly endorse giving the data to Google as part of the settlement now. So the controversy remains. I’ve edited the word “settlement” from the headline to more accurately reflect Commissioner Ramirez’s comments.





14 Comments

Wow, Jane, amazing work. I hope it gets more attention now.
I pity the FTC. It seems they do not understand whose attention they have engaged on this matter.
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It was a little weird when the Vladeck comment just showed up unsolicited in my inbox. They appear to understand they have a problem, but don’t seem to realize that if they can’t get a commissioner to come forward and back them up, they’re only making it worse.
And The Killin’ Goez On And On And…
Citizen Hamsher:
My lord, are you good or what??!!! Keep writin’ those cards, letters and emails…my God Sister Jane, why can’t you get paid by MSNBC for doin’ what Andrea Mitchell and Luke Russert are too stupid to do?
Keep the faith but pass the ammunition and let’s start callin’ them what they are!!
“…was stale, valueless to Google, and had been de-identified to protect individual privacy.”
So Google violates the law and get to keep the data based on an assertion, that the data is stale?
Why not rob a bank, get caught and then get to keep the money?
The only thing stale here is the logic. Like stale cigarettes sold at discount prices to instill an addiction, and profit from it.
In America we get to deal with deceitful corporations constantly, and get little recourse……………….
MSNBC, They wouldn’t pay Jane enough. Besides, she will not roll over like the rest, who need a paycheck. Corporate hostage taking…….
That’s a rhetorical question, right?
Still unpleasantly aware no Network or cable news have reported this story, mainly computer wonks.
Andrea Mitchell and Luke Russert don’t want to lose their memberships in the Church of the Savvy, http://jayrosen.posterous.com/the-savvy-press-and-their-exemption-from-the
Terrible fate, cast out and reviled as unbelievers, unsavvy. No one who crosses the threshold to worship within would willingly commit heresy. Jane probably can’t get thru the doors, any of them.
Thanks for the effort on these stories. Ever since King Ronnie sold us on broken government these regulatory horror shows abound. What is it going to take before the public sector remembers what it is for?
Fixed it for you.
Thanks. :) Makes it even more stale……
I explained to some people locally Google’s business model, and they were shocked.
I explained what “free” means to Google and Facebook.
Unless I missed something, they also get to keep the advertsing revenue and other paid-for expenses they generated during that time.